4 scientists: How to deal with a bad reference

While filling in a job application, you often have an option “contact the referees after the interview”. Don’t be scared to use it, most of the prospective employers only contact the referees after the interview. If you were shortlisted for an interview, you already have good chances to get the job. After the interview the potential employers tend to rely more on a good in person experience, than on a reference from an unknown person with a potential conflict of interests. Just be honest why you don’t want to ask for a reference from your previous supervisor or PI.

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If only all PIs were so hands-on  (Photo credit: Argonne National Laboratory)

Case 1 – PhD student

A  bad  reference is always a problem, but if  you didn’t get along with your PhD supervisor, it is not the end of the world and your nascent career. I know a PhD student (not his real name), who had a huge row with his supervisor at the end of his postgraduate studies. It was something to do with the authors order on a paper, but the details are not important. What is important,  he was able to get a postdoctoral position. After the interview he was asked about the references and told the truth, without getting into the details – that the supervisor is not happy with him, but it is possible to give references from his second supervisor  and his Master Project advisor. The interviewing PI was happy  to accept his explanation and alternative references. The  former student got the job.

Even as a PhD student you have several people to ask for a reference – your tutor, summer project/master/second PhD supervisor, even the internal seminar organiser – she has seen you presenting your work and answering questions.

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She always tried to maintain a  healthy ratio between bad and good references – 1:2 (Photo credit: pennstatenews)

Case 2 – mature postdoc

 He was desperate to stay in the same city, where he worked before – a half-mortgage paid house, children in a good school and other unnecessary luxuries – and accepted a job, where two previous postdocs left. Unsurprisingly, he didn’t get along with the PI and left never even trying to get a reference. He just asked for this his previous,  long-term employer.

The rule of the thumb for the case 2: Do not stay in an obviously dead-end position for more than a year. Everybody understands, that not all employer/employee relationships are made in heaven, but if you worked more than a year this makes people wonder, why you didn’t quit.

Case 3 – optimistic

This postdoc  had not only had bad references from the two consecutive jobs, but he was actually fired from the second job in a middle of a grant. Nevertheless, he found the next  postdoc relying on the references from the time of his PhD. If he was able to find a job with two strikes and current horrible job market,  I am sure you can do it too!

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